Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/31/1994 08:00 AM House STA

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  CSHB 345:  "An Act relating to the maintenance of and art                    
  requirements for certain public buildings and facilities and                 
  to the art in public places fund; and providing for an                       
  effective date."                                                             
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY opened HB 345 for discussion.   He asked if                   
  there was a motion to adopt CSHB 345, version E.                             
                                                                               
  Number 588                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE PETE KOTT so moved.                                           
                                                                               
  Number 589                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked the committee secretary to call the                     
  roll.                                                                        
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR:      REPRESENTATIVES VEZEY, KOTT, G. DAVIS,                        
                 SANDERS.                                                      
  OPPOSED:       REPRESENTATIVE ULMER.                                         
  ABSENT:        REPRESENTATIVES B. DAVIS, OLBERG.                             
                                                                               
  MOTION PASSED                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 595                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JEANNETTE JAMES, prime sponsor of CSHB 345,                   
  gave a brief statement.  She commented the committee had                     
  heard HB 345 two other times.  She expressed there really is                 
  a problem with the deferred maintenance of public                            
  facilities, therefore it was her intent to gain awareness                    
  for the problem.  She noted 1,717 buildings with a value of                  
  $2.3 billion, excluding the University of Alaska, will                       
  estimate $251 million in deferred maintenance.  She believed                 
  this number was conservative.  The problem is critical.                      
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES explained CSHB 345 is simple, easy to                   
  digest, and workable, as compared to her original HB 345.                    
  She stated CSHB 345 would set up a fund for deferred                         
  maintenance, whereby one percent of construction costs, on a                 
  one time basis, would be put into it.  A committee is then                   
  set up to determine life costs and criteria to make up a six                 
  year plan.  CSHB 345 would determine an amount, per foot, of                 
  assessment on those agencies who are in state facilities                     
  owned by the state.  That allocation would then go to take                   
  care of the deferred maintenance.  CSHB 345 would repeal the                 
  statutes affecting the one percent for art program.  She                     
  stated this is because buildings are falling down around us                  
  and the luxury of art cannot be afforded when the roof is                    
  leaking.  The proceeds of the general obligation and revenue                 
  bonds would also go into the fund.  Any federal funds,                       
  additional appropriations and interest on the fund would                     
  remain in the fund.  She noted the appropriations into the                   
  fund would be continuing; therefore, they would not lapse.                   
  She proposed in the future, enough money would be in the                     
  fund so as not only regular maintenance could be taken care                  
  of, but also a portion would be set aside for components.                    
  She offered to review the sectional analysis for the                         
  committee.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 636                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY noticed the committee did not have the                        
  sectional analysis in their packets.  He clarified HB 345                    
  had a zero fiscal note because it is all subject to                          
  appropriation.                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 638                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES corrected there was a small fiscal note                 
  of $151,300 from the Department of Administration (DOA)                      
  because they would be assigned the task of putting together                  
  the criteria to establish the six year plan and the                          
  administrative duties of the committee.  She noted the DOA                   
  fiscal note would not be for the current year.                               
                                                                               
  Number 650                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked where the duties of the committee were                  
  spelled out.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 653                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES replied it is defined that the                          
  committee will establish the criteria on the life costs                      
  system.                                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 657                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked under which duty of the committee would                 
  the establishment of a maintenance fund fee formula be.  The                 
  per square foot formula.                                                     
                                                                               
  Number 660                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES answered under establishing the                         
  criteria for the major maintenance needs of the state                        
  buildings.  She noted number 7 in the list of duties is to                   
  review the life cycle costs.                                                 
                                                                               
  Number 662                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY recognized the sectional analysis was                         
  distributed and stated REPRESENTATIVE JAMES could go through                 
  it.                                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 663                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES outlined the sectional analysis.  She                   
  began with Section 1.  Section 1 creates the state building                  
  major maintenance fund consisting of appropriations and bond                 
  proceeds.  This fund operates separately and parallels the                   
  system set up for the university, as stated in AS 35.50.020.                 
  Nonlapsing appropriations are addressed so the                               
  appropriations are not for one year.  One percent of                         
  construction costs of a state building are put into the                      
  fund.  The review committee is created consisting of the                     
  Commissioners of Administration, Transportation and Public                   
  Facilities, and three other departments selected by the                      
  Governor on a two-year rotating basis.  The Commissioner of                  
  Administration would serve as the chair, reviewing all                       
  covered entities except the university.  The committee of                    
  the Board of Regents may employ or contract for the                          
  expertise needed to accomplish the required duties.  The                     
  committee's duties are established, which the Board of                       
  Regents' duties will parallel.  The Board of Regents however                 
  will apply to university buildings.  By January 15 each                      
  year, the Commissioner of Administration will give the                       
  legislature the committee's list of all current major                        
  maintenance needs, a report of the committee's activities                    
  for the previous fiscal year, and a prioritized list of                      
  projects recommended for the next fiscal year.  Parallel                     
  requirements exist for the Board of Regents.  The major                      
  maintenance fee is addressed, existing parallel for the                      
  Boards of Regents.  The rate per square foot is used by the                  
  Governor to prepare the annual budget.  Section 1 includes                   
  definitions for Board of Regents, building, committee,                       
  department, state agency, state building, state fund,                        
  university, university building, and university fund.  The                   
  definition for construction costs is included in AS                          
  35.50.030(c).                                                                
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-41, SIDE B                                                           
  Number 000                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES continued.                                              
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES stated Section 2 states the Alaska                      
  State Council on the Arts remains in effect.  However, the                   
  council's authority over the art in public places fund is                    
  deleted.                                                                     
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES stated Section 3 states memorials                       
  constructed under AS 44.35.030 are no longer subject to the                  
  artworks in public buildings and facilities statute.                         
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES stated Section 4 repeals statutes                       
  relating to Art Works in Public Buildings and Facilities,                    
  the responsibility of the Alaska State Council on the Arts                   
  to manage the art in public places fund, and the fund                        
  itself.                                                                      
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES stated Section 5 states Art Works in                    
  Public Buildings and Facilities continues in effect for                      
  works under contract if the contract is entered into before                  
  the effective date of Section 4.                                             
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES stated in Section 6 all provisions are                  
  effective immediately except for the payment of the major                    
  maintenance assessment fee, which becomes effective July 1,                  
  1995.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Number 030                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY noted REPRESENTATIVE JAMES's office had done                  
  a lot of work on CSHB 345.                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 032                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES stated she believed CSHB 345 was very                   
  important, and deferred maintenance must be addressed.                       
                                                                               
  Number 044                                                                   
                                                                               
  NANCY BEAR USERA, COMMISSIONER OF ADMINISTRATION, commented                  
  on CSHB 345.  She noted CSHB 345 calls for the DOA to be the                 
  lead agency for implementation.  The DOA believes the                        
  maintenance and protection of the state's assets have been                   
  grossly neglected, therefore a mechanism needs to be found.                  
  She stated they have been trying to find a method for                        
  several years and of all of the approaches, CSHB 345 makes                   
  the most sense.                                                              
                                                                               
  MS. USERA explained at the first sight of CSHB 345, she did                  
  not like the emphasis on the DOA as the source of                            
  implementation.  She stated she now feels it makes sense.                    
  The DOA would be most suitable because of its                                
  responsibilities in providing overhead services to all state                 
  agencies.  The DOA would have the most "global" view of the                  
  needs of the departments.  The balance of the committee                      
  would be very representative.                                                
                                                                               
  MS. USERA pointed out the six year plan and a funding source                 
  that transcends from year to year would aid in the long term                 
  approach.  They have had difficulty with deferred                            
  maintenance projects because when the funds lapse every                      
  year, there is no carry forward.  She noted with the                         
  constraint of operating budgets, people use money which                      
  otherwise might go for daily operational maintenance issues.                 
  She recollected deferred maintenance on 2,500 buildings, so                  
  an estimation of 1,700 might be low.  She explained the                      
  state has buildings as small as mobile homes in Bethel that                  
  serve as the employment service office that need to be                       
  maintained.                                                                  
                                                                               
  MS. USERA stated DUGAN PETTY, Director of the Division of                    
  General Services, would be the key person for developing the                 
  project work on CSHB 345.  She explained their fiscal note                   
  depicted a professional project approach to assessing the                    
  needs of state buildings and devising the criteria.  The DOA                 
  would be able to prioritize the $251 million worth of                        
  deferred maintenance projects.                                               
                                                                               
  Number 113                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked the rate of how much the list of                        
  deferred maintenance was growing each year.                                  
                                                                               
  Number 116                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. USERA stated she did not know specifically.                              
                                                                               
  Number 119                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES responded the fiscal note from the                      
  original HB 345 was $61 million a year required to just meet                 
  the life costs formula for existing maintenance of the                       
  state's buildings.                                                           
                                                                               
  Number 126                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY stated he thought $61 million had included                    
  operations.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Number 127                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES clarified the $61 million did include                   
  utilities.  She noted utilities are a very important part of                 
  the process because as less maintenance is done, utilities                   
  increase.  She estimated a third, to a half of the $61                       
  million might have been for utilities.  She noted at least a                 
  $30 million a year deficit in deferred maintenance.                          
                                                                               
  Number 136                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked if the fund CSHB 345 was creating would                 
  not pay utilities.                                                           
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JAMES answered the fund would not.                            
                                                                               
  Number 146                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY moved to the Anchorage teleconference site.                   
                                                                               
  Number 150                                                                   
                                                                               
  ROGER PATCH, PRESIDENT, ALASKA STATE FACILITY ADMINISTRATORS                 
  (ASFA), commented on CSHB 345.  He stated ASFA is a                          
  voluntary organization composed of facility representatives                  
  from each of the agencies, the court system and the                          
  university system.  They have been studying the backlog of                   
  deferred maintenance for the past five years.  Deferred                      
  maintenance is their largest common problem and biggest                      
  concern.  He expressed if the backlog was not addressed in                   
  the immediate future, Alaska will be faced with rebuilding                   
  facilities, as opposed to trying to preserve them.  ASFA                     
  supports CSHB 345.  He stated ASFA is currently refining all                 
  of its statistics to give the committee some updates on the                  
  current value of the backlog.                                                
                                                                               
  Number 180                                                                   
                                                                               
  KIT DUKE supported CSHB 345.  She testified that she agreed                  
  with the testimony of MS. USERA and MR. PATCH.  She worked                   
  on the issue of deferred maintenance in 1993 and had                         
  testified for the committee on Executive Order 89.  She                      
  expressed she was disappointed EO 89 was withdrawn; however,                 
  she was pleased CSHB 345 was chosen to be addressed by the                   
  legislature.                                                                 
                                                                               
  MS. DUKE stated she believed CSHB 345 was an important step                  
  towards resolving the deferred maintenance issue.                            
  Therefore, she urged the passage of CSHB 345 from committee                  
  with do pass recommendations.                                                
                                                                               
  MS. DUKE explained CSHB 345 contains two elements address                    
  how to eliminate the backlog, and how not to continue to                     
  create it.  She noted the nonlapsing fund and creating a                     
  committee to take action by developing a six year plan.  She                 
  volunteered her time to ensure the six plan would be                         
  prepared, if CSHB 345 were to pass.                                          
                                                                               
  Number 210                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE G. DAVIS inquired about AS 35.50.060,                         
  committee duties as referred to in CSHB 345.  He asked how                   
  the function was performed now.  Does each building have a                   
  building maintenance supervisor that submits a list of                       
  problems and cost estimates to his supervisor, or is it done                 
  on an individual basis.                                                      
                                                                               
  Number 226                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. DUKE replied the process was not well organized.  Major                  
  institutions (e.g., correctional facilities, hospitals)                      
  usually have a maintenance superintendent.  A major combined                 
  office facility will have a Department of Transportation                     
  person, not responsible for only that building, that will                    
  put together information about what work needs to be done.                   
  The information will then proceed up through the chain of                    
  command, whereby it may or may not get addressed by the                      
  Governor's office or the legislature.  She stated presently,                 
  there is no comprehensive plan for buildings to be evaluated                 
  by.                                                                          
                                                                               
  Number 243                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE G. DAVIS questioned if current procurement                    
  policies and procedures get in the way of small repair                       
  items.                                                                       
                                                                               
  MS. DUKE stated she did not believe that they need to.  She                  
  felt they can work within procurement regulations to                         
  accomplish what needs to be done.  Most importantly, there                   
  needs to be a single point of focus and a plan for action.                   
  She supported CSHB 345 in this effort.                                       
                                                                               
  Number 266                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE ULMER moved an amendment to delete Section 4                  
  from CSHB 345.                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 277                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked the committee secretary to call the                     
  roll.                                                                        
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR:      REPRESENTATIVES ULMER, G. DAVIS.                              
  OPPOSED:       REPRESENTATIVES VEZEY, KOTT, SANDERS.                         
  ABSENT:        REPRESENTATIVES B. DAVIS, OLBERG.                             
                                                                               
  MOTION FAILED                                                                
                                                                               
  Number 280                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE G. DAVIS commented a lot of work had been                     
  done on CSHB 345, and there was no question that something                   
  needed to be set up.  He noted the similar process he has                    
  experienced from the municipal level.  CSHB 345 would save                   
  the state money in the future.                                               
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE G. DAVIS moved to pass CSHB 345 from                          
  committee with individual recommendations.                                   
                                                                               
  Number 307                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked the committee secretary to call the                     
  roll.                                                                        
                                                                               
  IN FAVOR:      REPRESENTATIVES VEZEY, KOTT, ULMER, G. DAVIS,                 
                 SANDERS.                                                      
  ABSENT:        REPRESENTATIVES B. DAVIS, OLBERG.                             
                                                                               
  MOTION PASSED                                                                

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